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Taken (with notes )from here: https://christianpublishinghouse.co/2018/10/18/john-858-theological-bias-in-bible-translation/
John 8:58 is one of the most hotly debated verses in the Bible, so our investigation begins and ends here.
|UASV||ESV, LEB, HCSB, RSV||NLV||CEV|
|Jesus said to them, “Most truly I say to you, Before Abraham came to be, I have been in existence.”||Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”||Jesus said to them, “For sure, I tell you, before Abraham was born, I was and am and always will be!”||Jesus answered, “I tell you for certain that even before Abraham was, I was, and I am.”|
|NLT||NAB||TEV, GNT||NASB, ASV|
|Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!||Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.”||“I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born, ‘I AM’.”||Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”|
|John 8:58 American Translation (AT) Jesus said to them, “I tell you, I existed beforeAbraham was born!”|
[John 8:56] “My Day” does it refer to the Plains of Mamre or in the Future? (Differences in Biblical Commentaries)
Many Christians try to show the divinity of Christ, by equating him with the figure in Genesis 18 , ANGEL OF THE LORD. They refer to John 8:56 “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”, and in particular the wording “MY DAY“. Let us examine the different interpretations of Biblical commentors on this issue:
BLUE = Future
RED=Plains of Mamre
To conclude here, you will see that the MAJORITY of commentaries are referring to a FUTURE observance of Christ, as opposed to Jesus coming down in human form, in Genesis 18.
But as usual in John 8:57 , the Jews twisted the words of Jesus and the Trinitarian Christians are gullible enough to accept their reasoning. In the next post we will see how commentators have understood the Jews were in-fact twisting or misinterpreting what Jesus was saying.
Taken from here: https://unveiling-christianity.net/2008/05/08/is-the-biblical-jesus-lucifer/
I’m sure you have heard Christians argue for Jesus’ divinity in light of “Before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). What they do is that they try to link this statement purportedly uttered by Jesus to that uttered by God in Exodus 3:14, “God said to Moses,”I am who I am”. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am’ has sent me to you.’” I do not wish to get into a discussion and exegesis of these two verses. That is not the purpose of this article. What I will do in this case is apply “I agree with you for the sake of argument”. So let’s agree for a moment(for the sake of argument) that Jesus is God because he used the words “I am” which God used, that is, he equated himself with God. That is the logic which the Trinitarians use. Let us now apply the same logic with the following: