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Examining the I AM of John 8:58

Taken (with notes )from here: https://christianpublishinghouse.co/2018/10/18/john-858-theological-bias-in-bible-translation/

John 8:58 is one of the most hotly debated verses in the Bible, so our investigation begins and ends here.

UASV ESV, LEB, HCSB, RSV NLV CEV
Jesus said to them, “Most truly I say to you, Before Abraham came to beI have been in existence.” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham wasI am.” Jesus said to them, “For sure, I tell you, before Abraham was bornI was and am and always will be! Jesus answered, “I tell you for certain that even before Abraham wasI was, and I am.”
NLT NAB TEV, GNT NASB, ASV
Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even bornI Am! Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to beI AM.” “I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born‘I AM’.” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was bornI am.”
John 8:58 American Translation (AT) Jesus said to them, “I tell you, I existed beforeAbraham was born!

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Do any of the Textual Variants affect Christian Doctrine?

Taken from Bart Ehrman’s  “Jesus Interrupted”:

In response to the assertion, made by conservative evangelicals, that not a single important Christian doctrine is affected by any textual variant, I point out:

a. It simply isn’t true that important doctrines are not involved. As a key example: the only place in the entire New Testament where the doctrine of the Trinity is explicitly taught is in a passage that made it into the King James translation (1 John 5:7–8) but is not found in the vast majority of the Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. I would suggest that the Trinity is a rather important Christian doctrine. A typical response to this rebuttal is that the doctrine of the Trinity can be found in Scripture without appealing to 1 John 5:7–8. My reply is that this is true of every single Christian doctrine. In my experience, theologians do not hold to a doctrine because it is found in just one verse; you can take away just about any verse and still find just about any Christian doctrine somewhere else if you look hard enough.

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Bart Ehrman on 1 John 5:7 and Trinity

ad Taken from here: https://ehrmanblog.org/do-textual-variants-really-matter-for-anything/

Before explaining that, let me deal head on with the objection that no variants threaten any “significant Christian doctrine.”   I’m not sure that’s *entirely* true – depending on what one means by the term “threaten.”   For example, there is only one verse in the entire New Testament that explicitly teaches the Christian doctrine of the Trinity, 1 John 5:7-8 – “There are three in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one.”   That’s the Trinity – three persons who are all one.  The doctrine is explicitly stated nowhere else.   But this verse was not originally in the New Testament.  It is a later addition.

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