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Taken (with notes )from here: https://christianpublishinghouse.co/2018/10/18/john-858-theological-bias-in-bible-translation/
John 8:58 is one of the most hotly debated verses in the Bible, so our investigation begins and ends here.
|UASV||ESV, LEB, HCSB, RSV||NLV||CEV|
|Jesus said to them, “Most truly I say to you, Before Abraham came to be, I have been in existence.”||Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”||Jesus said to them, “For sure, I tell you, before Abraham was born, I was and am and always will be!”||Jesus answered, “I tell you for certain that even before Abraham was, I was, and I am.”|
|NLT||NAB||TEV, GNT||NASB, ASV|
|Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!||Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to be, I AM.”||“I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born, ‘I AM’.”||Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am.”|
|John 8:58 American Translation (AT) Jesus said to them, “I tell you, I existed beforeAbraham was born!”|
Taken from Bart Ehrman’s “Jesus Interrupted”:
In response to the assertion, made by conservative evangelicals, that not a single important Christian doctrine is affected by any textual variant, I point out:
a. It simply isn’t true that important doctrines are not involved. As a key example: the only place in the entire New Testament where the doctrine of the Trinity is explicitly taught is in a passage that made it into the King James translation (1 John 5:7–8) but is not found in the vast majority of the Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. I would suggest that the Trinity is a rather important Christian doctrine. A typical response to this rebuttal is that the doctrine of the Trinity can be found in Scripture without appealing to 1 John 5:7–8. My reply is that this is true of every single Christian doctrine. In my experience, theologians do not hold to a doctrine because it is found in just one verse; you can take away just about any verse and still find just about any Christian doctrine somewhere else if you look hard enough.
ad Taken from here: https://ehrmanblog.org/do-textual-variants-really-matter-for-anything/
Before explaining that, let me deal head on with the objection that no variants threaten any “significant Christian doctrine.” I’m not sure that’s *entirely* true – depending on what one means by the term “threaten.” For example, there is only one verse in the entire New Testament that explicitly teaches the Christian doctrine of the Trinity, 1 John 5:7-8 – “There are three in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one.” That’s the Trinity – three persons who are all one. The doctrine is explicitly stated nowhere else. But this verse was not originally in the New Testament. It is a later addition.