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Examining the I AM of John 8:58

Taken (with notes )from here: https://christianpublishinghouse.co/2018/10/18/john-858-theological-bias-in-bible-translation/

John 8:58 is one of the most hotly debated verses in the Bible, so our investigation begins and ends here.

UASV ESV, LEB, HCSB, RSV NLV CEV
Jesus said to them, “Most truly I say to you, Before Abraham came to beI have been in existence.” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham wasI am.” Jesus said to them, “For sure, I tell you, before Abraham was bornI was and am and always will be! Jesus answered, “I tell you for certain that even before Abraham wasI was, and I am.”
NLT NAB TEV, GNT NASB, ASV
Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even bornI Am! Jesus said to them, “Amen, amen, I say to you, before Abraham came to beI AM.” “I am telling you the truth,” Jesus replied. “Before Abraham was born‘I AM’.” Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was bornI am.”
John 8:58 American Translation (AT) Jesus said to them, “I tell you, I existed beforeAbraham was born!

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Is Abraham Yahweh?

Some Christians claim that the Greek word Kyrios/Kurios is a direct translation of the Hebrew name Yahweh, because the word does not appear openly in the Greek New Testament; instead the word Kyrios/Kurios is used. In essence they are claiming that every occurrence of the word Kyrios/Kurios is a placeholder for Yahweh.

So let us use Christian “logic” and say for the sake of argument that this is true. Now how do we explain the following verse:

Thus Sarah obeyed Abraham and called him lord [kurios] (1 Peter 3:6).

Is Abraham Yahweh?

 

[John 8:57] Refuting the Idea that Jesus and Abraham met in Genesis 18

Let’s examine how the Jews twisted/perverted the words of Jesus in John 8:56:. Unfortunately Trinitarians are gullible enough to believe what the Jews were saying, and ended up equating the Angel in Genesis 18 to Jesus.

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[John 8:56] “My Day” does it refer to the Plains of Mamre or in the Future? (Differences in Biblical Commentaries)

Many Christians try to show the divinity of Christ, by equating him with the figure in Genesis 18 , ANGEL OF THE LORD. They refer to John 8:56 “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad.”, and in particular the wording “MY DAY“. Let us examine the different interpretations of Biblical commentors on this issue:

BLUE = Future
RED=Plains of Mamre

To conclude here, you will see that the MAJORITY of commentaries are referring to a FUTURE observance of Christ, as opposed to Jesus coming down in human form, in Genesis 18.

But as usual in John 8:57 , the Jews twisted the words of  Jesus and the Trinitarian Christians are gullible enough to accept their reasoning. In the next post we will see how commentators have understood the Jews were in-fact twisting or misinterpreting what Jesus was saying.

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Did Abraham know the Name Yahweh before Moses? (Old Testament Contradiction)

Exodus 6:2-3

2 God also said to Moses, “I am the LORD.(Yahweh ) 3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD (Yahweh) I did not make myself known to them.

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Gen 12:8

And he removed from thence unto a mountain on the east of Bethel, and pitched his tent, having Bethel on the west, and Hai on the east: and there he builded an altar unto the LORD, and called upon the name of the LORD (Yahweh).

Was God known by the name Yahweh prior to Moses (Exodus 6:3), or was he not (Genesis 4:26, 5:29, 9:24, 22:14, 27:20, 27:27, 28:20-21)?-Contradiction in the OT

Exodus 6:3 King James Version (KJV)

3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them.

 

 

Biblical Commentary on Genesis 18:1-2

Genesis 18:1-2 New International Version (NIV)

The Three Visitors
18 The Lord appeared to Abraham near the great trees of Mamre while he was sitting at the entrance to his tent in the heat of the day. 2 Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. When he saw them, he hurried from the entrance of his tent to meet them and bowed low to the ground.

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Niqab in the Bible (Covering of the Eyes)

Taken from here( Easton’s Bible Dictionary)

Among the gifts presented by the king were a thousand pieces of silver as a “covering of the eyes” for Sarah; i.e., either as an atoning gift and a testimony of her innocence in the sight of all, or rather for the purpose of procuring a veil for Sarah to conceal her beauty, and thus as a reproof to her for not having worn a veil which, as a married woman, she ought to have done

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Examining ‘Judeo-Christian’ Morals and Ethics

A friend of mine named “Abdullah” wrote a thought-provoking article which I would like to share:

Examining Judeo-Christian Morals and Ethics
Many times we hear the phrase “Judeo-Christian” morals and ethics, however are the teachings that Jesus had different from the teachings of the Rabbinical sages and Judaism?

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